Frontier,

The ONE thing we all LOVE abt lovecycling is, it doesnt matter what bike you ride (roadies, mtb, foldies, fixie, any other bikes that u can think of), what outfit u wear (jersey, tee-shirts, tights, slippers,etc) what race you're, how old are you (9yrs to 60++yrs), what your speed is...we ride together!! it's the friendship, the fun & the joy that bring us together and that cant be done without a simple word call respect.

If it's some words of encouragement, tips or note to care, you're most welcomed to post your view, your opinion here.
The last thing we need here is to have someone starts to criticise or being hostile towards other riders.

Sorry if my words sounded harsh.

...living on outskirts of clementi you'll very likely to ride up to Woodlands meeting point via Upper Bukit Timah road. With circle line construction, that stretch of road is not a friendly road. I would say its condition is among the worst in sg at the moment.

Hahaha..... dear Frontier frontier, I greatly appreciate your time & effort to analyse to put forth your reasons for my excuse.

I always put my family's welfare, feelings & interest before self but for this ride, my loved ones' objection is not the sole reason.

I wish I am as brave as you assumed I am to ride that nightmarish stretch of road, the condition of which you rightly described.
When I rode to woodland waterfront from home alone, it was always at a leisure pace so my route is combination of western pcn, footpaths and as much as possible less busy roads. Never by upper bt timah alone. For LCSg morning rides I always take the train.

There's not much to fear riding in Johor. Sg road conditions like crime rate(latest being corpse behind istana) has been deteriorating over the years. Impatience of increasing no. of drivers in our hectic environment too.

Wonder whether you are a Singaporean or not to describe singapore road as if crime infested. If I am not living in Singapore I would not want to ride/drive in Singapore.
I do not know how safe is Malaysian roads and the road users' driving habits so prefer to err on the cautious side. Hence i understand my daughters' fear.

Pace of life here is morphing into the bus in Speed movie - Must stay above 80km/h or else the bus rigged with bomb will explode & kill everyone onboard. Escalator not fast enough - keep left so people can chiong up on right side.

whoa, what a description or exagerrationl. When I felt vehicles were zooming past me at speed of 80kph and above, I know I have the safety of the footpath to escape to & which is not available if in johore/malaysia.

Sat is a heavy operation day for Hauliers because the depots open only 1/2 day and the prime movers are .....Your Tuas hockeystick ride on a Sat morning might be more dangerous instead. How come your daughters not worry about high concentration of speeding....

The distance is much shorter than the Kukup ride and I have rode in Tuas before tho may not be at that busy hr. Also the response to LCSg sunday rides's are always overwhelming. So I expect the turnout at the tuas hockeystick ride shd be overwhelming. So we will have safety in number.

Kimi's first paragraph should be like the pledge of LCSG when new members join in..... ha ha ha...like 加人黑社会.

"We, the riders of LCSG, pledge ourselves as one united riders, regardless of race, age, bikes, attire and speed, so as to achieve happiness, friendship and good food for our well-being"

Hi guys,

So sorry that we (Desmond & Darren Goh), hav to withdraw from the trip cos of last min work commitment.